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Conversations with people who have run global sales organisations from the inside, at IBM, HPE, Vodafone, Qlik, Alcatel, Apple and Microsoft, and now spend their time finding what is holding the number down. Unscripted. Built from real situations, anonymised.

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Most of the buying decision is made before anyone calls you

Chris Thomas spent a decade as Global Head of Digital Sales at Vodafone Business, where he built the organisation from 25 people to 400 across six hubs and took it from a standing start to €500m. In this conversation he sets out what digital sales covers, why field teams were wrong about the deals it can close, and why every AI programme in a sales organisation turns out to be a data programme first.

SPEAKERS

Chris Thomas

Martin Hess

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The 60% of the customer's buying journey you never see

The 60% of the customer's buying journey you never see

Corporate buyers now behave like consumers. Most of the journey happens in research your sellers never see.

Corporate buyers now behave like consumers. Most of the journey happens in research your sellers never see.

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A customer should not be able to tell the difference between a digital sales rep and a field rep

A customer should not be able to tell the difference between a digital sales rep and a field rep

Field organisations insisted digital teams could not close million-pound deals. Then Chris's teams closed them, and went on to close five-million-pound ones.

Field organisations insisted digital teams could not close million-pound deals. Then Chris's teams closed them, and went on to close five-million-pound ones.

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The 70% nobody puts a price on

The 70% nobody puts a price on

Most of an expensive field seller's week is already spent at a desk. That is where the case for division of labour starts.

Most of an expensive field seller's week is already spent at a desk. That is where the case for division of labour starts.

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Garbage in, garbage out

Garbage in, garbage out

AI cannot tell a seller who to call next if the ideal customer profile was never in the CRM to begin with.

AI cannot tell a seller who to call next if the ideal customer profile was never in the CRM to begin with.

Who this series is for

Which of these sounds like your sales organisation?

Every one of these is the same problem wearing different clothes. The way you cover customers has not changed at the rate their buying has. Each one also points at a specific thing digital sales is built to fix.

The speakers

Two careers spent carrying the number

Merlin5 only employs people who have run sales organisations at scale. Both of these are practitioners, not board observers — they still deliver the work.

Build it, transform it, or scale it across markets

Merlin5 is a specialist digital sales transformation partner. Whether the capability is new or already exists, the same things decide whether it performs. The operating model, the customer data, the playbooks and the management rhythm underneath it.

The diagnostic reviews your model, customer data, pipeline process, CRM discipline, sales technology, team capability, playbooks and management rhythm, then shows leaders what to strengthen first and what it is worth. Every quarter you wait is another quarter of buying decisions made without you in the room.

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